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Sword Hammer Axe · Sep 06, 2008, 10:25 PM // 22:25

How about if tonics dropped from like dungeon chests or as a reward after you finished a game? I think it would be cool if there was like some special tonics for the dungeons and as endgame rewards

Like in Cathedral of Flames: Servant of Murakai tonic
Rragars: Fleshreaver tonic
Bogroot growths: red/yellow amini (depending on which side you played for)

After NF: Margonite reaper
After proph: Fist of Titan or Jade Armor
After Factions: afflicted version of your profession
After EOTN: Destroyer of Sinew

Or whatever

just something like this. And of course the dungeon ones should drop as rarely as polymock pieces so that it will add to the market ^^

obsidian ectoplasm · Sep 06, 2008, 10:33 PM // 22:33

Meh,

I think it would be cool if at the end of teh game req7 crysstallines were dropped... but they dont.

Sora267 · Sep 06, 2008, 10:35 PM // 22:35

The Prophecies one should be a LOT better (Prince Rurik, Lich, or Mursaat), considering Hell's is harder to do than the other endgame missions. For NF, give Margonite Ascendant, those wings own. For Factions, I'd prefer a Shiro'ken version of your profession. EoTN, I'd prefer Asura, or as a GW2 promotional tool, Sylvari. Also, the mission ones should either be given on completion of the mission or be everlasting and be given once per character.

A11Eur0 · Sep 06, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37

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Originally Posted by obsidian ectoplasm

Meh,

I think it would be cool if at the end of teh game req7 crysstallines were dropped... but they dont.

Yeah because basic tonics and R7 crystallines are on the same level. At all.

/fail post.

As for the OP:

Servant of Murakai tonic pretty much exists as the phantom tonic. I'd say a ghost tonic would be better. Not ghostly hero...just a regular ghost like Murakai or the Master.

/signed for the idea, but they should be good skins and if they have normal tonics drop, they should be extra, with a rare chance of an everlasting.

Brimstonez · Sep 07, 2008, 01:32 AM // 01:32

Tonics are currently fun things to play with. If they start dropping from every bloody chest, they no longer have a wow factor, and will become yet another toy to be given to the salvos for some homeless drunk's x-mas present.

/not signed....EVER

Sword Hammer Axe · Sep 07, 2008, 09:36 AM // 09:36

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

Servant of Murakai tonic pretty much exists as the phantom tonic. I'd say a ghost tonic would be better. Not ghostly hero...just a regular ghost like Murakai or the Master.

Actually the phantom tonic makes you a smoke phantom while servant of murakai are wraiths. But the idea of ghost tonic is even better and instead of becoming a murakai you could become an etheral version of yourself

Sword Hammer Axe · Sep 07, 2008, 09:39 AM // 09:39

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Originally Posted by Brimstonez

Tonics are currently fun things to play with. If they start dropping from every bloody chest, they no longer have a wow factor, and will become yet another toy to be given to the salvos for some homeless drunk's x-mas present.

Well I must admit that I am not fund of the idea of endgame tonics anymore XD realised they wouldn't be elite anymore but the chest tonics should be very rare to find, like the polymock pieces or r9 clockwork scythes. That would keep them rare and elite

Numa Pompilius · Sep 07, 2008, 10:55 AM // 10:55

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Originally Posted by Sword Hammer Axe

How about if tonics dropped from like dungeon chests or as a reward after you finished a game?

The PvP crowd is not amused.

Sword Hammer Axe · Sep 07, 2008, 02:41 PM // 14:41

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

The PvP crowd is not amused.

Why would the pvp crowd even care? I think it would be cool with tonic drops and seriously I don't like this whole idea with pvp only rewards.

MithranArkanere · Sep 07, 2008, 05:44 PM // 17:44

I won't mind. Many of those already drop from the Zaishen chest.

If their drop is way lower than dye drop (let's say 5 times lower) I won't mind at all.

Nude Nira · Sep 08, 2008, 01:56 AM // 01:56

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Originally Posted by Sword Hammer Axe

Why would the pvp crowd even care? I think it would be cool with tonic drops and seriously I don't like this whole idea with pvp only rewards.

Why? Is it because you can't pvp?

Also...yeah I'd be pissed if tonics started to drop in pve...the tonics are really the only thing unique to the zchest, which was created so pvper's could do something with their faction. Pve has their unique stuff that pvp can't get, and vice versa.

If this ever did happen (even though it kind of has with sinister tonics) I guarentee you that almost every popular district would become flooded with people in tonics, which is god damn annoying.

Sword Hammer Axe · Sep 09, 2008, 09:09 PM // 21:09

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Originally Posted by Nude Nira

Why? Is it because you can't pvp?

Also...yeah I'd be pissed if tonics started to drop in pve...the tonics are really the only thing unique to the zchest, which was created so pvper's could do something with their faction. Pve has their unique stuff that pvp can't get, and vice versa.

If this ever did happen (even though it kind of has with sinister tonics) I guarentee you that almost every popular district would become flooded with people in tonics, which is god damn annoying.

That flooded with tonicusers is a good argument but rarity should still be there. Why do you have to sepparate pve and pvp like that? It's not like it's a different game. And the zchest tonics shouldn't be the same as the dungeon tonics. Each dungeon should have 1 kind of tonic and it should be of a monster related to the dungeon. Phantasmal, golem, norn, trapdoor and so forth tonics should still be pvp reward only.

Hanging Man · Sep 09, 2008, 09:14 PM // 21:14

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

The PvP crowd is not amused.

lol the pvp crowd is never amused with any idea, short of skill updates

i like the afllicted version of ourselves, I wouldnt wanna be like fully mutated keep the human form but show obvious mutations, but that kinda blows for a tonic since its gotta change your form....
w/e
i wanna transform into a charr

A11Eur0 · Sep 09, 2008, 09:43 PM // 21:43

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Originally Posted by Nude Nira

Why? Is it because you can't pvp?

Also...yeah I'd be pissed if tonics started to drop in pve...the tonics are really the only thing unique to the zchest, which was created so pvper's could do something with their faction. Pve has their unique stuff that pvp can't get, and vice versa.

If this ever did happen (even though it kind of has with sinister tonics) I guarentee you that almost every popular district would become flooded with people in tonics, which is god damn annoying.

So...you as a PvP'er have a total of what....7(?) outposts to use a tonic in, whereas PvE'ers have....quite a few more. 100? Let's break it down to popular outposts: LA, Kaineng, Shing Jea, Kamadan, Marhan's, Droks, ToA, Gunnars, EOTN, Rata Sum, Doomlore...there's a lot more where that came from. Oh wait, you have PvE characters too? Shock!

and they can still go to the PvP outposts.

Tonics were never meant to be PvP rewards. The Z-chest was meant to be a PvP balth faction sink. It turned into a PvP'ers way to make money in the PvE world. Otherwise PvP'ers would use their keys, instead of selling them for 5k a piece to PvE'ers.
I bet it pissed you off that the (IMO) better automatonic was given to strictly PvE'ers through the MOX quest.

PvE is the only true content of this game. PvP has been stale for a couple years now...only skill balance changes and PvE-linked rewards like the Z-chest, faction and tardlets /ranking people in PvE outposts keep PvP alive.

Bowstring Badass · Sep 09, 2008, 09:59 PM // 21:59

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Originally Posted by Sora of the Divine

The Prophecies one should be a LOT better (Prince Rurik, Lich, or Mursaat), considering Hell's is harder to do than the other endgame missions.

lol'd I cleared that mission in 10 mins. NF last mish is easy as is Factions but the missions before those arent push overs.